Following a declaration of my reasons for changing my diet, I have tried to be more vocal about my cause. This is conversation I had with my sis that spiraled out of control. She freaked out a little, and I snapped at being cast in the wrong cause.
I’m realizing that the more I try to be true to my anti-cruelty cause, the more ridiculous, emotional and extremist my concerns become. Its so logical. Yet I don’t know how to make it seem like that to the people who are close to me. Its like I can see myself splitting into two. I agree with the one who doesn’t eat meat, but I am also the one who is on the other side of the fence- who witnesses how the non-meat eater is perceived, the moment she tries to effect change. Futile. Its starting to hurt a bit really.
ruif- says:
i should sleep soon but not sleepy
ry says:
i should too.
ry says:
im talking to coach who is the exact opposite of you
ry says:
likes his animals best on the plate!!
ry says:
GOSH!
ruif- says:
of cos ppl like animals on plates
ruif- says:
because ITS YUMMY FOOD
ruif- says:
see whether they like to slaughter it themselves in cold blood
ry says:
he doesnt think its cruel!!
ruif- says:
because hes not a chicken or a cow!!!!!!!!
ry says:
oh i dont think thats a big problem…
ry says:
thast why ppl still eat meat
ry says:
yeah
ry says:
thats why that day i was wondering all about empathy and sympathy
ry says:
i probably sympathise, but cant empathise
ry says:
thats why i eat meat.
ruif- says:
yes. you dont NATURALLY empathize
ruif- says:
but there is NO REASON not to
ruif- says:
we are all living things
ruif- says:
we should not inflict unnecessary pain onto other living things
ruif- says:
we can eat them yes…
ruif- says:
because we are top of the food chain
ruif- says:
but we shouldnt eat them in such conditions
ruif- says:
factory farmed and all
ruif- says:
very bad.
ry says:
yeahh.
ry says:
no reason no to??
ry says:
but if you dont, you just dont…
ruif- says:
like i.e maybe we are doing things wrong
ruif- says:
that its natural to do things this way
ruif- says:
but then we can change
ry says:
how to change your heart
ruif- says:
we can change the way we view things
ry says:
its like me trying to be green, less plastic bags and all..
ry says:
has to do with me saving my own ass.
ruif- says:
that is how we moved away from slavery
ruif- says:
and racism
ry says:
i know its wrong and all….but.
ry says:
how do you explain me?
ruif- says:
you. have not been shocked enough.
ruif- says:
you have not seen enough pictures.
ruif- says:
have not watched enough videos
ry says:
i suppose…
ruif- says:
if you see a dead crow/pigeon and you cringe
ry says:
yeah
ruif- says:
that is the kind of reaction you should have for your food
ruif- says:
imagine if they picked up your crow and defeathered it.
ry says:
but remember,
ruif- says:
and cut it up
ry says:
i told you before,
ruif- says:
you cant see nothing but red meat
ry says:
kids in school saw a dead crow
ry says:
they thought it was funny
ruif- says:
but im talking about YOU
ruif- says:
i know what they think
ruif- says:
but you Im saying, cant honestly think that its funny- i know.
ry says:
but Me isnt really only me
ruif- says:
no. one step at a time. not talking abt other people
ruif- says:
just trying to convince you its not good
ry says:
ive realised something.
ry says:
no. not good something
ry says:
ive realised that if you ever feel strongly about anything, and try to encourage me to feel the same way
ry says:
there must be a button for me that tells you stop.
ry says:
or not, it’ll be like those irritating church ppl.
ruif- says:
ok. i can stop/
ry says:
yeahhh….you know, as that dawned on me i was scared!
ruif- says:
wat do you mean!>?
ruif- says:
ure irritating me
ruif- says:
first you put me in the category of an irritating church person
ruif- says:
then you say youre scared/
ruif- says:
im not the tribunal or something
ruif- says:
u can go, ‘okay. im tired of it. lets not talk abt it now’
ruif- says:
i accept that.
ry says:
no!!
ry says:
i say possibly. like i was doing the progressive thing in my mind
ruif- says:
i dont understand
ry says:
wait arh. let me copy a line
ry says:
“no. one step at a time. not talking abt other people”
ry says:
i must’ve misread that. or it innately is, to sound very resolute.
ry says:
anyway. everybody has to disagree. at times.
ry says:
i have to sleep now! goodnight!!!!
ry says:
anyway
ry says:
i AM mildly irritated that you said you can go, okay. im tired of it. lets not talk about it now.
ry says:
because all i was concerned for, was how if one day your insistence, like all activists, comes in the way of our very nice sister relations. that is all.
ry says:
goodnight!
ruif- says:
wait
ry says:
yessss
ruif- says:
okay. first i do not agree that what i believe is anything like the church and religion
ry says:
i didnt say that
ruif- says:
i took offence very much- that you said that eventually, you might regard it as an insistent church preacher type thing
ry says:
church-activists are just an extreme of the group.
ruif- says:
its not the same cause.
ruif- says:
and if u started it- discussing it- then you should at least round it up nicely
ruif- says:
instead of suggesting that perhaps i cannot stop trying to ‘convert you’
ry says:
Firstly, that wasnt an end to the conversation
ruif- says:
I DO NOT WANT TO PREACH
ry says:
it was a passing thought.
ruif- says:
im not shouting, just emphasizing.
ry says:
i never meant it to end.
ruif- says:
yes. i dont like it. thats all
ry says:
and Secondly,
ruif- says:
its not a fair passing thought..
ry says:
you have said before, you would like to try change our family, so am i to blame for thinking that you do have this optimistic goal of maybe somewhat doing your part for the anti-blood thing by non-forcefully convincing your family members
ruif- says:
no you are not wrong to think that.
ry says:
whether to convert or to encourage, isnt it all just a matter of degree?
ruif- says:
you are not ridiculous in thinking that
ruif- says:
but it is a different cause and you have to realise that i do not like the kind of comparisons you are making
ruif- says:
my point is that if you want to engage me in what i believe in
ruif- says:
you have to deal with it-
ruif- says:
and if you want me to stop
ruif- says:
i.e. press the button
ruif- says:
you just have to let me know
ruif- says:
i dont like to feel like a church evangelist.
ry says:
Yeah. that passing thought was jsut to ensure theres a button!
ruif- says: YOU DONT HAVE TO say that!? i mean. geeez
ruif- says: of cos there is a button
ruif- says:
its a civil conversation
ruif- says:
u make me feel like a character.
ruif- says:
like ‘okay- stop it. stop it.’
ry says:
alright. im sorry if i made you feel like who you didnt want to be.
ruif- says:
ok i’ll stop now too. im taking too much offence at something you didnt mean to say
ruif- says:
but said anyway./
ry says:
HAha.
ry says:
im sorry, but its a night!
ry says:
got school tomorrow~
ruif- says:
yea.
I do read like an over-reacted pain-in-the-neck don’t I? I just got very wounded up. All my poor sister was thinking was perhaps- ‘Hang on, you have to back off.’ And I do understand that, I really do. Must improve my cool. Must be more logical and in control. Should never ever have such outbursts ever. I am not the KKK or some brain-washing commune leader. I am just me, trying to be a conscientious member of the world.
But the dilemma is this. I do indeed look around to convince. But attempting to do this without appearing like a tree-hugger-type is hard. But going political on my own is as good as throwing a coin into the ocean- i.e. not doing much. I am so bloody frustrated.